Talk:Rainier Wolfcastle

Move quotes to wikiquote? clarkefreak 02:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

He's Bavarian, unlike the Austrian Ah-nold. Right?

Teh Bomb Sophist 03:15, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Quoting Batman and Robin? I'm not so sure...

From the article:

"One annotation of McBain's Schwarzenegger origins is his appearance at the beginning of one episode by burstiong out of an ice statue built for his arch-foe and proclaiming "Ice to See You", quoting from Schwarzeneggers role as Mr. Freeze in the movie Batman and Robin. The character reportedly made many similar one-liners, e.g "Winter has come at last" upon entering a scene."

The episode in question, Last Exit to Springfield, first aired on March 11, 1993, a full four years before Schwarzenegger appeared in Batman & Robin. "Ice to see you" was not a reference to the film, but rather just a parody of Arnold's one-liners in general. I'm removing the quoted passage.--RicardoC 16:48, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I've watched Batman & Robin, and there are no instances where Freeze said "Ice to see you", as one of his puns. Duo02 (Shout here!) 19:06, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Quotes

Boo. They are rubbish. Vitriol 16:51, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the "no one must know" comment was actually from The Critic, and was said by Schwarzenegger, not Wolfcastle. Andy 04:50, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

i think that the quote, "Remember when I said I would eat you last? I lied.." is a reference to a Schwarzenegger film, but i cant remember which one. Any help apprechiated DannyB!! 15:33, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Commando Bigkev 06:26, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Intro

"Ironically enough, Arnold Schwarzenegger himself would (perhaps unknowingly) end up using one of McBain's one-liners in 1997's Batman and Robin. As the villain of the piece, Mr. Freeze, Schwarzenegger used several weather-related puns, including the expression "Ice to see you", which was a line also used by McBain in the 1993 Simpsons episode 'Last Exit to Springfield.'"

I really don't think this belongs in the intro, since it comes across as an aside more than anything else. Perhaps it can fit somehwere else in the article, but I don't think in the intro. Gershwinrb 08:39, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Wolfcastle's "Immigrant Status"

Why would this be an obstacle to his (theoretical) gubernatorial ambitions?

Although it's a fictional series "The Simpsons" still takes place in the United States, where the only office barred to non-native-born citizens is the presidency.

If "The Simpsons" was set in Mexico, then this discussion would have an altogether different cast, but as it stands now I don't see why Rainier Wolfcastle couldn't hold the governership of whatever state Springfield is located in.

Ruthfulbarbarity 06:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Wolfcastle's picture

Is the picture parody of the Phoenix Wright? --157.24.204.182 11:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I would say no. He's got a look of panic on his face, it looks more like he's shouting WATCH OUT! or.. something that ends in an 'oo' sound. He's definitely not OBJECTING! though if Lionel Hutz wasn't absent, he'd probably be doing parodies like that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.72.21.221 (talk) 02:25, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

That picture was from Cape Feare when he was on Late Night with McBain and he was declaring everyone homosexual.71.125.47.197 (talk) 1:52, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I think this picture sucks. Isn't there a high resolution photo that doesn't have him in mid-speech? --Simpsons fan 66 07:15, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Wife

Wolfcastle has a wife named Maria shouldn't she be put in the info box? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.12.133.107 (talk) 00:52, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

"Wolfcastle"?

Maybe it's just me, but especially in combination with the possible anti-semitic views, the name "Wolfcastle" directly makes me think of Castle Wolfenstein and Wolfenstein 3D. I seriously doubt that to be coincidence. If I'm right about this, I think this should be said somewhere in the article. -W3ird N3rd (talk) 23:24, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

If and only if you find a reliable source which discusses it. You may very well be right, but we can't just throw our own opinions into an article. If there is a link, it should certainly be mentioned. faithless (^speak) 23:54, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

A quick search on the internet teaches me I'm not the first who made this connection. All sources, including the Dutch wikipedia, say it could/may/probably refer to the Castle Wolfenstein videogames. They all also mention the German city Wolfsburg as a possibility. I'll add that to the page. W3ird N3rd (talk) 03:24, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a proper reliable source, such as an interview from the producers? -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 03:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

No. And I want to note you removed more than just what I added (reverted to far?). But if you want a source for everything, there is a whole lot more you should remove from this article. It is frequently suggested that his career is on the decline since a movie featuring a "magic ticket" similar to Last Action Hero who says LAH has anything to do with this? Who says Mt. Rainier has anything to do with this character? There is also a hint that he may have some anti-semitic or Neo-Nazi views. When Krusty the Clown says, "I thought I was a self-hating Jew, but it turns out that I'm just an anti-semite" and nearby Wolfcastle enthusiastically responds, "We have so much to discuss". We don't actually know for sure what he wanted to discuss. Maybe how to set up his WiFi. It's very unlikely you'll find reliable sources for this kind of stuff, so if you feel this has to be removed, everything we are not 100% sure about should be removed. I personally think that information that is likely to be correct could be in the article in this case, as long as it's made clear that those things could or might be true, and not stating them as facts. The Dutch Wikipedia does not seem to have a problem with it. Still I will not revert right now because I don't feel like starting a revert/edit-war. No hard feelings by the way, but if this is removed from the article, we should be consequent and remove everything that has no reliable source. W3ird N3rd (talk) 03:48, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I can't speak for the other stuff, as I haven't really looked through the article. But we can't include anything that could or might be true without a reliable source. This goes for anything that is already in the article too, obviously. Remember, Wikipedia is all about verifiability, not truth. I would argue that the antisemitic bit is fine, though. The only way the joke would make sense is if he was talking about Jews; I don't really think this is an assumption or anything, as it's made pretty clear in the script. faithless (^speak) 04:32, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

well, technically, the alleged "antisemitic" bit has holes in it, and is not really verified. I mean, the scene in question also had him walking through a Jewish neighborhood, of all places (and even about to enter a building located next to the Jewish Hall of Fame registration building.). I mean, how many anti-semites would walk through a Jewish neighborhood? I mean, seeing how anti-semites are hateful of Jewish people, he wouldn't even be near the neighborhood. Plus, it was rather obvious that Krusty was deeply upset when he said that (I mean, even Homer could decipher that, and that's saying a lot), so he may have been joking, for all we know. Unless we have actual, undeniable evidence towards him being an anti-semite, let's leave that bit out, ok? Weedle McHairybug —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.215.149 (talk) 23:46, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

First Appearance

He did not first appear in Bart the Genius. I don't remember him in that episode and he made his first real appearance in The Way We Was as McBain and his first appearance as himself in Radio Bart. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.47.197 (talk) 00:56, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

The goggles do nothing

...you sure this is the origin of the phrase? I know that a subbed Megaman episode had it, as well as 'Do You Think It's OK to Microwave This?'(sic), though that almost definitely came later. Also, is this a meme? The previous two instances are the only two I know of. 74.32.237.31 (talk) 20:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

The phrase is actually "My eyes! The goggles do nothing!" NOT "The goggles, they do nothing"